Some save with fear pulling them out of the fire. That’s similar to what firemen do for a living only they put out physical fires. Spiritual fires are different. If you were to see someone in a burning building what would you do? Would you try to rescue them? What would you do if you got right next to them and they told you to get out because they wanted to die. Most people would try to drag them out anyway .even against their approval to save their life. How much do you love a person if you know they’re on spiritual fire and you do nothing to help them? Love means involvement. Love means rescue. And love means intervention. That is what is called faith in shoe leather. Instead of saving their physical life you are intent on saving their soul. James says, he who turns a Sinner from the error of his ways will save a SOUL from death and cover a multitude of sins. Sounds like good advice to me. That’s what I try to do with Catholics every day.